Talk:The Daily Show

This is the current ongoing discussion for The Daily Show. For an archive of past discussions, please refer to the following archive(s):

Archive 1

Steve Carrell

Is Steve Carrell really a current correspondent? He only shows up every once in a while.
--Fezz(Ryvius) 21:20, 12 Aug 2005 (PDT)

While not listed in the regular cast, he never officially quit/left and has an open invitation to come back whenever he wants. I would call him more of a contributor these days.
--Sigma 21:30, 12 Aug 2005 (PDT)

Accordin to the daily shows website, he is still listed as a Correspondent. I'd say as long as he's there, we have no reason to say different.
--cpickett

He's not listed with the other correspondents in the credits of the show though, so probably best to remove him. - Indecision 15:00, 4 Oct 2005 (EDT)

More on episode naming

I generated season lists for the years 1999-2004 from the list Krofinzki provided. But I am still not quite sure how to name certain episodes, such as:

• Episodes with no guest: Usually episodes with no guest have some sort of title. Use that title with the date? Or perhaps 'No Guest (Date)'. Or just the date?
• Episodes with a guest and title: Special episodes, such as Evolution Schmevolution or the Democratic Convention episodes. Use the standard 'Guestname (Date)' for those, or include the title?
• Multiple guests: We can put all guests in the title, or title it 'Multiple Guests (Date)'. But I thought of another interesting possibility. Take for example the episode 'Carl Bernstein, Bob Woodward (July 18, 2005)'. We could create another page called 'Bob Woodward, Carl Bernstein (July 18, 2005)' that merely links to the first page. That way we can have two entries in the episode list category, alphebetized under both guests.
• Special/compilation episodes: Best choices are either the episode title, or just 'Special (Date)' for all of them.

It's my opinion that the primary concern in deciding how to do it should be keeping the episode category page as clean and useful as possible. So I suggest all episodes with no guest be titled 'No Guest (Date)' or something similar. I suggest special/compilation episodes be titled 'Special (Date)'. And shows with multiple guest should have secondary pages so they can be added into the category twice. I do not think it's necessary to ever have the episode title in the show URL, as those episodes can be categorized other ways so they are easy to find. Thoughts? - Indecision 19:19, 12 Oct 2005 (EDT)

I'd go for No Guest (Date), Guestname (Date) on special episodes, Special (Date) on Case 1, 2 and 4 and provide the extra information in the yearly overview list instead of the title; that gives consistency, IMHO. For case 3, listing them in alphabetical order in the title should work; the linking idea seems a bit unclean, IMHO. The names would still show up in a search, just the categorization sort would not work as well; it's better than having one article linked multiple times IMHO, though. Eike 01:59, 14 Oct 2005 (EDT)

New Template

I created a new episode template for talk shows. For now I removed the rows for writer and director as I'm presuming most talk shows have a long list of writers that don't change from episode to episode. I also don't think director applies. I also set it up to link to the previous and next episodes with the new URL naming scheme - Guestname (Date). The episodes for October 3-6 all use the new template and URL naming scheme. Take a look and see if it looks okay. Also, feel free to add to the template. - Indecision 02:03, 9 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Talk shows do have directors, but it's usually one of the many people in the control room along with the sound guy, producers, etc. The director doesn't usually change from episode to episode. --Ryvius 04:04, 9 Oct 2005 (EDT)

I modified the template a bit. This page has an example of what I edited-- the top where the episode title normally goes is the date/guest, and the guest has its own variable section. I think it looks aesthetically better, solves the problem of what happens when there is no guest (only the date will be shown in the header), and makes the guest look a bit more obvious and opens up a section to list more than one guest, but I don't want to encroach on anyone's territory by making that the main template. Tell me what you guys think, and, if no one really likes it, we can always revert back to the older one; it's not a problem. I also edited the layout for that a bit. I deleted reviews because I don't think it's particularly important for a daily talk show, and moved some other things around. Again, it's for the Colbert Report, but tell me what you think about it. --Wizardryo 23:33, 2 Nov 2005 (EST)

Segment Templates

I thought it might be better to create templates for each of the segments on TDS, and use them when creating the episode pages. I made a templates for This Week in God and "On-Location" Report and demoed them in the Sept. 26 episode. Some advantages of doing it this way:

• Ensures every episode will have a constistant look and feel.
• Less typing when creating each page.
• Automatically links to and adds to category page, if there is one for that segment.
• Makes it possible to change the format for segments later on

The only thing about doing it this way would be remembering the various templates, but we can create a list of all templates for reference, probably on this page. - Indecision 15:38, 17 Oct 2005 (EDT)

• I have made a template for Back in Black. One problem I see with this approach is that we have to either put the section headlines above the templates, or live with the fact that some episodes will have dual headlines (for example, if both Mess'O'Potamia and This Week In God appear in one episode, each will have a ====Studio Report==== or ====Recurring Segment==== headline, when they /should/ both be listed under just one. Either way, here's a list of used templates so far, so if you add one, add it here as well. I changed the sort-Parameter to date and removed the need for a * in the twig-Template (it's too easy to forget it, IMHO, so it should be in the template instead). Eike 14:45, 18 Oct 2005 (EDT)

• • I replaced the multiple templates with one ({{Daily Show}}) that incorporates all of the segments. DCEdwards1966 | Talk 01:30, 16 February 2007 (EST)

Still Going on this Months Thing

I still think that sectioning off years into months would make for a more easilly viewable page. So, I played around with the templates and came up with this for talk shows:

{{Months| showtitle = The Daily Show |year = 2005 }}

What do you guys think? This way, you could have the long page with all of the episodes from the year as well as the less unwieldy shorter lists. Or am I the only one in favor of this idea? --IndieRockLance 03:00, 18 Oct 2005 (EDT)

• I don't think that would make the page more easily viewable. For one thing, you'd have another layer of clicks to get to an episode. For another, you will split up weeks with this approach (i.e. of a 4 episode week, two may be in November and two in December). Furthermore, the month-pages will have to be maintained -- which can be cumbersome if we later on have to/want to change the title for a page or the layout of the lists. If the month-pages were categories (i.e. completely automatic) it would be another thing, but an edited page seems unworkable to me. Then again, this is just my two cents :) Eike 14:49, 18 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Additional Comment

Just my two cents: I suggest you guys archive and link to resolved/closed discussions, similar to what Wikipedia does, instead of just deleting them and pointing curious people to the page history. --Wizardryo 02:11, 19 Oct 2005 (EDT)

• Might as well. Talk:The Daily Show/Archive has the past discussions in all their glory. Eike 02:51, 19 Oct 2005 (EDT)

Previous Discussions

Summaries :

• Krofinzki's list was brought up for reference; pages

should include some minimal information like Correspondents and Segments, at least.

• While actual seasons in the first few years spanned from July to July (and starting in 2005 from January to January), the site will display years as seasons to keep out confusion.
• Screencaps will be shown with 300px width to keep in line with the rest of the site.
• pages will be named Guest (Date) where Date is in (Month DAY, YEAR) format.

Split in to three or keep as one?

I was just curious if anyone else had thoughts on this. Obviously, we currently have one article which covers the series from the beginning. This goes against most other late night shows, which have a new article for each host. So, should we keep this as one, or split them out into The Daily Show, The Daily Show with Jon Stewart and The Daily Show with Trevor Noah? I'm kind of on the edge. Part of me wants it to keep in line with the other talk shows, but then I like having one page since there's cast overlap with the different versions. It's especially nice to see someone like Lewis Black listed for every season. So, anyone else have any thoughts? -Joltman (talk) 10:04, 5 July 2015 (CDT)